I am also looking for a small c&p press to upgrade.My solution to get a press I can actually afford was to look all over briarpress and ebay. Everything is super expensive right now. I ended up getting a 5×8 kelsey from ebay for about $300, but it was super crusty and nasty, and missing rollers and chase. At least it was affordable. I was willing to go through the trouble of cleaning it up and finding spare parts rather than spending 4 times the amount and getting a ready-to-print one. Here are some pictures of work in progress: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mirkah/sets/72157622404523175/If you are willing to go this route, then just keep your eyes on ebay and wait for the yucky press to come along, because they will, ive seen several. I would get a kelsey or a c&p because spare parts are easier to come by.Mirka