Yeah, I understand the white foil thing. The last time foil was big was back 15 yrs ago, that’s why I bought my first foil unit. I make my own plates so I don’t need to order them. I also run all windmills and a KSB CYLINDER.I’m going to stand by my original comments. Foil is really trendy right, just like blind emboss was a few years ago. The recyclable quality is just silly. The carbon footprint of foil and the waste created from the acetate rider material negates the recycling aspect of the final product.From 2005-2012 I produced all the letterpress for Crane & CO when my shop was in Holyoke. Foil was only used on the lower end stationery lines. We used it primarily for white type on dark paper.